History is written by the victors. The victors have an agenda. It’s not purely factual. History is embellished to steer future readers towards certain conclusions. The farther we get from historical events the more we accept that it wasn’t recorded with 100% accuracy.
We all lose when we get tangled up in time. Time is something humans learn, it is not natural. Part of being raised is being time-bound. Show up for school, show up for work. That's not natural. It's part of farming societies. In tribes, "time" tends to be more like following what the animals and resources are doing, but in "modern" societies, time is following the Master's Hand on the Clock.
This is literally the principle behind anarcho-communism and securing bread and leisure time for all so we can do work that is meaningful and have time for social relationships.
Ahh yes, magical free bread for all and everyone can sit around like lazy worthless hippies doing nothing all day but holding hands and smoking weed and singing kumbaya. That's amazing fren, good thinking did you come up with such an amazing idea all by yourself?
I sometimes made huge mistakes. But what actually is a mistake in politics? And when I look back, I have only one sentiment: an enormous regret. Regret that we did not succeed, that we were not able to create this European world which would be the master of the universe for all time, which made the white race the first race, with the great mastery of the spirit.
And when we see what there is on the other side, what 30 years of the others’ victory has given, this anarchy in the world, this rout of the white world, this desertion throughout the universe; when we see in our own countries the decay of morals, the fall of the fatherland, the fall of the family, the fall of social order; when we see this appetite for material goods which has replaced the great flame of the ideal which animated us, well then, truly, between the two we chose the right side. The small, miserable Europe of today, of this impoverished Common Market, cannot give happiness to men. Consumer society poisons humanity rather than elevating it.
So, for our part, we dreamed of something great, and we have only one desire, that this spirit be reborn. And with all my might, up to the last moment of my existence, I will fight for this. So that what was our struggle and our martyrdom, will one day be the resurrection.
Frens have helped me with my crippling mathematics. I used to have a hard time too and then once some frens helped me, everything just seemed so much clearer.
Fren, this is just a post about how mathematics and history don't always add up. Mathematics is a different thing from history. History is a genre of literature, like Harry Potter.
Falling for what, fren? You seem to misunderstand the multiplicity of meanings to an artwork. If you think there are secret messages in artwork and that only you know them, rather than that different eyes see different things, then it's likely you have a mental disorder called schizophrenia.
Schizophrenia is a very serious disorder, and people who are afflicted by it often lack insight into their condition. If you're just a nice church schizo who makes sandwiches for the poor that is one thing, but if your schizophrenia leads you to attack frens, then that's unacceptable behavior, and we might have to put you in ward and administer the frenjuice.
Fren, if the kids have a sandcastle and they don't want to play with you, why don't you go build your own sandcastle? In conversation with many schizononfrens in public, their major interest is in "disrupting the narrative," and if i ask 'well, what do we put in its place?' they have no idea.
It's easy to destroy, to knock down other people's sandcastles, to have a purely negative/reactionary agenda, but what is it you want to do with yourself that isn't defined by the bad behavior of others?
It's not possible that humans as we know them constructed the Pyramid of Giza. The King's Chamber has 80 tonne granite stones that fit perfectly together and the nearest source of granite is 800 miles away.
Fren, the Nile flows north and before it was dammed it flooded right to the base of the pyramids. 800 miles isn't far to take a rock by boat. 1 every 2 minutes is fast, but remember they had elephants and maybe pulleys as well as the best engineers at the time.
How did they cut and shape granite stones that fit so well you can't slip a sheet of paper or needle between the blocks without steel or even iron tools? Bronze can't cut granite, you'll wear through your saw or chisel before you cut the stone.
Fren stacking stones to where you can't fit paper through is pretty easy, in fact more stones have been stacked that way than in a way that would allow paper. As for cutting granite it's believed they used blunt bronze saws with sand and water. A laborious task certainly, but with the thousands of workers available it was certainly doable. Old frens didn't know as much as new fens, but they were just as smart. With the agriculture revolution prevalent in the Nile River valley they had an abundance of workers not needed for farming. The abundance of food also brought people from afar bringing various skills and techniques to the region. Just think fren, how do you know it was built in 25 years? Also most of the stone is sandstone, only some internal Chambers are granite.
I never learned about the pyramids in school. 2 blocks a minute turns out to 25 million which is off by a factor of 10. Also the average weight of the blocks was only 2.5 tons which is about the weight of a sedan. to make that realistic for you, my cross country team in high school picked up my friends car and moved it to another spot as a prank, there was only like 15 of us and we were mostly a scrawny bunch. If you've been to the pyramids you know they're massive. You could have probably like 50 being put into place at a time. How the pyramids were built isn't that big of a mystery. The only mystery is why they were built, because they have no hieroglyphs it's unlikely they're tombs. If you're going to follow a conspiracy theory about them I suggest you start there.
Aftershock The Ancient Cataclysm That Erased Human History.
Roughly 12,000 years ago there was an global civilization on this planet more advanced than were are today that was destroyed by a giant asteroid. This civilization built the Giza Pyramids and other megalithic structures that have been found all over the world.
Theres overwhelming evidence to support this theory, last Novermeber we discovered a 19-mile-wide crater in Greenland said to be caused by a "kilometer-wide iron asteroid"
This undoubtedly is the catastrophic event that caused the end of Last Glacial Period that main stream science has struggled to come up with an answer for.
The Last Glacial Period (LGP) occurred from the end of the Eemian to the end of the Younger Dryas, encompassing the period c. 115,000 – c. 11,700 years ago. This most recent glacial period is part of a larger pattern of glacial and interglacial periods known as the Quaternary glaciation extending from c. 2,588,000 years ago to present. The definition of the Quaternary as beginning 2.58 Ma is based on the formation of the Arctic ice cap. The Antarctic ice sheet began to form earlier, at about 34 Ma, in the mid-Cenozoic (Eocene–Oligocene extinction event).
Carbon dating is a variety of radioactive dating which is applicable only to matter which was once living and presumed to be in equilibrium with the atmosphere, taking in carbon dioxide from the air for photosynthesis.
If an Egyptian in America commits a crime the government classifies him as white.
Modern Egyptians are more closely related to Europeans than to sub-Saharan Africans. DNA testing of mummies implies that ancient Egyptians probably were too.
There actually was a Nubian dynasty that ruled Egypt, but that was centuries after the Egyptian Empire, which was centuries after the pyramids were built. The only thing they did that was particularly historically remarkable was get conquered by the Assyrians.
Hello, you seem to be referencing an often misquoted statistic. TL:DR; The 40% number is wrong and plain old bad science. In attempt to recreate the numbers, by the same researchers, they received a rate of 24% while including violence as shouting. Further researchers found rates of 7%, 7.8%, 10%, and 13% with stricter definitions and better research methodology.
The 40% claim is intentionally misleading and unequivocally inaccurate. Numerous studies over the years report domestic violence rates in police families as low as 7%, with the highest at 40% defining violence to include shouting or a loss of temper. The referenced study where the 40% claim originates is Neidig, P.H.., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. It states:
Survey results revealed that approximately 40% of the participating officers reported marital conflicts involving physical aggression in the previous year.
There are a number of flaws with the aforementioned study:
The study includes as 'violent incidents' a one time push, shove, shout, loss of temper, or an incidents where a spouse acted out in anger. These do not meet the legal standard for domestic violence. This same study reports that the victims reported a 10% rate of physical domestic violence from their partner. The statement doesn't indicate who the aggressor is; the officer or the spouse. The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The “domestic violence” acts are not confirmed as actually being violent. The study occurred nearly 30 years ago. This study shows minority and female officers were more likely to commit the DV, and white males were least likely. Additional reference from a Congressional hearing on the study: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951003089863c
An additional study conducted by the same researcher, which reported rates of 24%, suffer from additional flaws:
The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The study was not a random sample, and was isolated to high ranking officers at a police conference. This study also occurred nearly 30 years ago. More current research, including a larger empirical study with thousands of responses from 2009 notes, 'Over 87 percent of officers reported never having engaged in physical domestic violence in their lifetime.' Blumenstein, Lindsey, Domestic violence within law enforcement families: The link between traditional police subculture and domestic violence among police (2009). Graduate Theses and Dissertations. http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/etd/1862
Yet another study "indicated that 10 percent of respondents (148 candidates) admitted to having ever slapped, punched, or otherwise injured a spouse or romantic partner, with 7.2 percent (110 candidates) stating that this had happened once, and 2.1 percent (33 candidates) indicating that this had happened two or three times. Repeated abuse (four or more occurrences) was reported by only five respondents (0.3 percent)." A.H. Ryan JR, Department of Defense, Polygraph Institute “The Prevalence of Domestic Violence in Police Families.” http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/4951188/FID707/Root/New/030PG297.PDF
Another: In a 1999 study, 7% of Baltimore City police officers admitted to 'getting physical' (pushing, shoving, grabbing and/or hitting) with a partner. A 2000 study of seven law enforcement agencies in the Southeast and Midwest United States found 10% of officers reporting that they had slapped, punched, or otherwise injured their partners. L. Goodmark, 2016, BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY LAW REVIEW “Hands up at Home: Militarized Masculinity and Police Officers Who Commit Intimate Partner Abuse “. https://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2519&context=fac_pubs
P.S.: I didn’t write this, all rights go to the respective copypasta’s owner
Frens, I don't understand how longnose pillowfort had 2 people, then the big bop happened, and 2 years later longnose pillowfort had 9 people. Something is wrong. Can anyone help?
Hello, you seem to be referencing an often misquoted statistic. TL:DR; The 40% number is wrong and plain old bad science. In attempt to recreate the numbers, by the same researchers, they received a rate of 24% while including violence as shouting. Further researchers found rates of 7%, 7.8%, 10%, and 13% with stricter definitions and better research methodology.
The 40% claim is intentionally misleading and unequivocally inaccurate. Numerous studies over the years report domestic violence rates in police families as low as 7%, with the highest at 40% defining violence to include shouting or a loss of temper. The referenced study where the 40% claim originates is Neidig, P.H.., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. It states:
Survey results revealed that approximately 40% of the participating officers reported marital conflicts involving physical aggression in the previous year.
There are a number of flaws with the aforementioned study:
The study includes as 'violent incidents' a one time push, shove, shout, loss of temper, or an incidents where a spouse acted out in anger. These do not meet the legal standard for domestic violence. This same study reports that the victims reported a 10% rate of physical domestic violence from their partner. The statement doesn't indicate who the aggressor is; the officer or the spouse. The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The “domestic violence” acts are not confirmed as actually being violent. The study occurred nearly 30 years ago. This study shows minority and female officers were more likely to commit the DV, and white males were least likely. Additional reference from a Congressional hearing on the study: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951003089863c
An additional study conducted by the same researcher, which reported rates of 24%, suffer from additional flaws:
The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The study was not a random sample, and was isolated to high ranking officers at a police conference. This study also occurred nearly 30 years ago. More current research, including a larger empirical study with thousands of responses from 2009 notes, 'Over 87 percent of officers reported never having engaged in physical domestic violence in their lifetime.' Blumenstein, Lindsey, Domestic violence within law enforcement families: The link between traditional police subculture and domestic violence among police (2009). Graduate Theses and Dissertations. http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/etd/1862
Yet another study "indicated that 10 percent of respondents (148 candidates) admitted to having ever slapped, punched, or otherwise injured a spouse or romantic partner, with 7.2 percent (110 candidates) stating that this had happened once, and 2.1 percent (33 candidates) indicating that this had happened two or three times. Repeated abuse (four or more occurrences) was reported by only five respondents (0.3 percent)." A.H. Ryan JR, Department of Defense, Polygraph Institute “The Prevalence of Domestic Violence in Police Families.” http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/4951188/FID707/Root/New/030PG297.PDF
Another: In a 1999 study, 7% of Baltimore City police officers admitted to 'getting physical' (pushing, shoving, grabbing and/or hitting) with a partner. A 2000 study of seven law enforcement agencies in the Southeast and Midwest United States found 10% of officers reporting that they had slapped, punched, or otherwise injured their partners. L. Goodmark, 2016, BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY LAW REVIEW “Hands up at Home: Militarized Masculinity and Police Officers Who Commit Intimate Partner Abuse “. https://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2519&context=fac_pubs
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91 comments
1 The-Memedarin 2019-06-18
What you mean fren? You having trouble with six million?
1 BorisHisJohnson 2019-06-18
Why does the number keep changing fren?
1 luckydragon88 2019-06-18
What's the issue with 6 garillion?
1 dtread8 2019-06-18
I'm confused, I need more research fren.
1 Mr_Trumps__Wild_Ride 2019-06-18
No you are not allowed to do that.
1 RUDOLF_RAMMSTEINER 2019-06-18
6,000,000 = i
1 despitebeing13pc 2019-06-18
1.5million + 4.5million
1 SupremoX2 2019-06-18
It’s nice to know that you people don’t even bother trying to hide it anymore.
Absolutely disgusting.
1 PleaseStopPostingPls 2019-06-18
I know right? How did they get away with it for so long? I mean, wooden doors? COME ON!
1 PleasantHuman 2019-06-18
The truth fears no investigation, probably why its illegal to question it.
1 Mr_Trumps__Wild_Ride 2019-06-18
How absolutely dare they? Look at what has happened in Orange Fren's America!!
1 The-Memedarin 2019-06-18
What you mean fren? You having trouble with six million?
1 Top_Hat_Capybara 2019-06-18
Fren, don't go there
1 ser-of-cannabis 2019-06-18
History is written by the victors. The victors have an agenda. It’s not purely factual. History is embellished to steer future readers towards certain conclusions. The farther we get from historical events the more we accept that it wasn’t recorded with 100% accuracy.
1 BorisHisJohnson 2019-06-18
Why does it feel like we lost?
1 Godesae 2019-06-18
We all lose when we get tangled up in time. Time is something humans learn, it is not natural. Part of being raised is being time-bound. Show up for school, show up for work. That's not natural. It's part of farming societies. In tribes, "time" tends to be more like following what the animals and resources are doing, but in "modern" societies, time is following the Master's Hand on the Clock.
1 tiniest-wizard 2019-06-18
This is literally the principle behind anarcho-communism and securing bread and leisure time for all so we can do work that is meaningful and have time for social relationships.
1 stkstkfsp 2019-06-18
Dont break their little brains
1 Clytemnestras_Rage 2019-06-18
Yeah yours seems fractured already
1 [deleted] 2019-06-18
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1 PleasantHuman 2019-06-18
You mean using violence to force people to do stuff for you.
1 Mr_Trumps__Wild_Ride 2019-06-18
Ahh yes, magical free bread for all and everyone can sit around like lazy worthless hippies doing nothing all day but holding hands and smoking weed and singing kumbaya. That's amazing fren, good thinking did you come up with such an amazing idea all by yourself?
1 TryhardPantiesON 2019-06-18
1 GEOTUS_2020_T_DFK 2019-06-18
Please be a little more subtle fren, we can’t show our true power level or the reddit admins will bop us!
1 [deleted] 2019-06-18
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1 DocMjolnir 2019-06-18
We did.
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1 hairydurt 2019-06-18
How does 13% = 50% ?
1 BorisHisJohnson 2019-06-18
Must be those social ergonomic tractors.
1 honkhonkbangbang 2019-06-18
In the olden days the tractors were less ergonomic
1 Form_4473 2019-06-18
Niggle me this Batman...
1 [deleted] 2019-06-18
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1 EndlessDelusion 2019-06-18
Frens have helped me with my crippling mathematics. I used to have a hard time too and then once some frens helped me, everything just seemed so much clearer.
1 [deleted] 2019-06-18
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1 braighdentheviking 2019-06-18
But my teacher Mr. Longnose said...
1 GhostInAJar1983 2019-06-18
What did he say Fren?
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1 honkhonkbangbang 2019-06-18
"something something fellow whites"
1 PM_ME_88_FACTS 2019-06-18
Can any fren help me convert the average crematorium temperature to bodies per hour?
1 neiz0 2019-06-18
Do you think you are being subtle? This is merely accelerating your inevitable ban.
1 Godesae 2019-06-18
Fren, this is just a post about how mathematics and history don't always add up. Mathematics is a different thing from history. History is a genre of literature, like Harry Potter.
1 neiz0 2019-06-18
Surely.
No one's really falling for this. I'd give this place maybe 2 months tops. Stay cozy while you still can, "frens".
1 Godesae 2019-06-18
Falling for what, fren? You seem to misunderstand the multiplicity of meanings to an artwork. If you think there are secret messages in artwork and that only you know them, rather than that different eyes see different things, then it's likely you have a mental disorder called schizophrenia.
Schizophrenia is a very serious disorder, and people who are afflicted by it often lack insight into their condition. If you're just a nice church schizo who makes sandwiches for the poor that is one thing, but if your schizophrenia leads you to attack frens, then that's unacceptable behavior, and we might have to put you in ward and administer the frenjuice.
1 HimmlersTrainDriver 2019-06-18
Lol, surely this ban will be the effective one to get these meanies off reddit!
1 neiz0 2019-06-18
It is, actually
1 HimmlersTrainDriver 2019-06-18
They've been banning our subs for years, and we're still here. Our ideas aren't going anywhere, and neither are we.
1 neiz0 2019-06-18
Cope.
1 Godesae 2019-06-18
Fren, if the kids have a sandcastle and they don't want to play with you, why don't you go build your own sandcastle? In conversation with many schizononfrens in public, their major interest is in "disrupting the narrative," and if i ask 'well, what do we put in its place?' they have no idea.
It's easy to destroy, to knock down other people's sandcastles, to have a purely negative/reactionary agenda, but what is it you want to do with yourself that isn't defined by the bad behavior of others?
Who appointed you a prince and judge?
1 GhostInAJar1983 2019-06-18
I agree Fren. Geography is different too
1 Godesae 2019-06-18
There's physical geography and political geography.
All sorts of different ways of drawing all over Gaia. But is it polite to draw on your mother's face?
1 altruisticnarcissist 2019-06-18
The pyramids dude. 2.5 million stones cut and put into place in 25 years is an average of 2 minutes per stone. The math just doesn't add up fren!
1 iconicronic 2019-06-18
250 years, 20 minutes, Still don't add up.
1 Yung_Rocks 2019-06-18
What do you mean? How do you think it was done then? Or you think it took way longer?
1 altruisticnarcissist 2019-06-18
It's not possible that humans as we know them constructed the Pyramid of Giza. The King's Chamber has 80 tonne granite stones that fit perfectly together and the nearest source of granite is 800 miles away.
1 Yung_Rocks 2019-06-18
So what? Aliens? Lost technology?
1 daisuki2me 2019-06-18
these are the mysteries fren
1 therealgoose21 2019-06-18
Fren, the Nile flows north and before it was dammed it flooded right to the base of the pyramids. 800 miles isn't far to take a rock by boat. 1 every 2 minutes is fast, but remember they had elephants and maybe pulleys as well as the best engineers at the time.
1 altruisticnarcissist 2019-06-18
How did they cut and shape granite stones that fit so well you can't slip a sheet of paper or needle between the blocks without steel or even iron tools? Bronze can't cut granite, you'll wear through your saw or chisel before you cut the stone.
1 therealgoose21 2019-06-18
Fren stacking stones to where you can't fit paper through is pretty easy, in fact more stones have been stacked that way than in a way that would allow paper. As for cutting granite it's believed they used blunt bronze saws with sand and water. A laborious task certainly, but with the thousands of workers available it was certainly doable. Old frens didn't know as much as new fens, but they were just as smart. With the agriculture revolution prevalent in the Nile River valley they had an abundance of workers not needed for farming. The abundance of food also brought people from afar bringing various skills and techniques to the region. Just think fren, how do you know it was built in 25 years? Also most of the stone is sandstone, only some internal Chambers are granite.
1 Mr_Trumps__Wild_Ride 2019-06-18
Blunt bronze saws with sand and water? To slice granite up into blocks?
Of course, it's so obvious! Wow I feel stupid for questioning it now, thanks for enlightening me and saving me future embarrassment, fren.
1 therealgoose21 2019-06-18
No problem fren, there are some cool videos of people doing it if you want to check it out.
1 honkhonkbangbang 2019-06-18
Yeah, elephants and wooden pulleys aren't gonna place two blocks a minute of that size and precision. Something seriously doesn't add up.
Contrary to what you may believe, your 6th grade history book didn't teach you everything.
1 therealgoose21 2019-06-18
I never learned about the pyramids in school. 2 blocks a minute turns out to 25 million which is off by a factor of 10. Also the average weight of the blocks was only 2.5 tons which is about the weight of a sedan. to make that realistic for you, my cross country team in high school picked up my friends car and moved it to another spot as a prank, there was only like 15 of us and we were mostly a scrawny bunch. If you've been to the pyramids you know they're massive. You could have probably like 50 being put into place at a time. How the pyramids were built isn't that big of a mystery. The only mystery is why they were built, because they have no hieroglyphs it's unlikely they're tombs. If you're going to follow a conspiracy theory about them I suggest you start there.
1 PleasantHuman 2019-06-18
Aftershock The Ancient Cataclysm That Erased Human History.
Roughly 12,000 years ago there was an global civilization on this planet more advanced than were are today that was destroyed by a giant asteroid. This civilization built the Giza Pyramids and other megalithic structures that have been found all over the world.
Theres overwhelming evidence to support this theory, last Novermeber we discovered a 19-mile-wide crater in Greenland said to be caused by a "kilometer-wide iron asteroid"
This undoubtedly is the catastrophic event that caused the end of Last Glacial Period that main stream science has struggled to come up with an answer for.
1 WikiTextBot 2019-06-18
Last Glacial Period
The Last Glacial Period (LGP) occurred from the end of the Eemian to the end of the Younger Dryas, encompassing the period c. 115,000 – c. 11,700 years ago. This most recent glacial period is part of a larger pattern of glacial and interglacial periods known as the Quaternary glaciation extending from c. 2,588,000 years ago to present. The definition of the Quaternary as beginning 2.58 Ma is based on the formation of the Arctic ice cap. The Antarctic ice sheet began to form earlier, at about 34 Ma, in the mid-Cenozoic (Eocene–Oligocene extinction event).
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1 PleasantHuman 2019-06-18
Carbon dating is a variety of radioactive dating which is applicable only to matter which was once living and presumed to be in equilibrium with the atmosphere, taking in carbon dioxide from the air for photosynthesis.
1 Yung_Rocks 2019-06-18
I am saving that for later, thanks for the answer
1 tiniest-wizard 2019-06-18
"If white people couldn't do it, then it must have been aliens".
1 Titus70 2019-06-18
If an Egyptian in America commits a crime the government classifies him as white.
Modern Egyptians are more closely related to Europeans than to sub-Saharan Africans. DNA testing of mummies implies that ancient Egyptians probably were too.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/oukoe-uk-britain-tutankhamun-dna/half-of-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-idUKTRE7704OR20110801
There actually was a Nubian dynasty that ruled Egypt, but that was centuries after the Egyptian Empire, which was centuries after the pyramids were built. The only thing they did that was particularly historically remarkable was get conquered by the Assyrians.
1 whatdoestherocksay 2019-06-18
Fren how is 2%=40%?
1 tiniest-wizard 2019-06-18
40% of cops self-report beating their spouses/children.
1 Titus70 2019-06-18
I didn't think a chapocel would be so quick to leap to the defense of billionaires
Commies are confusing frens
1 Bulbmin66 2019-06-18
Do you have a source for that, “fren”?
1 Bulbmin66 2019-06-18
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/bunbp1/final_paper_on_perceptions_of_police_officers_and/epec20c/
Hello, you seem to be referencing an often misquoted statistic. TL:DR; The 40% number is wrong and plain old bad science. In attempt to recreate the numbers, by the same researchers, they received a rate of 24% while including violence as shouting. Further researchers found rates of 7%, 7.8%, 10%, and 13% with stricter definitions and better research methodology.
The 40% claim is intentionally misleading and unequivocally inaccurate. Numerous studies over the years report domestic violence rates in police families as low as 7%, with the highest at 40% defining violence to include shouting or a loss of temper. The referenced study where the 40% claim originates is Neidig, P.H.., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. It states:
Survey results revealed that approximately 40% of the participating officers reported marital conflicts involving physical aggression in the previous year.
There are a number of flaws with the aforementioned study:
The study includes as 'violent incidents' a one time push, shove, shout, loss of temper, or an incidents where a spouse acted out in anger. These do not meet the legal standard for domestic violence. This same study reports that the victims reported a 10% rate of physical domestic violence from their partner. The statement doesn't indicate who the aggressor is; the officer or the spouse. The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The “domestic violence” acts are not confirmed as actually being violent. The study occurred nearly 30 years ago. This study shows minority and female officers were more likely to commit the DV, and white males were least likely. Additional reference from a Congressional hearing on the study: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951003089863c
An additional study conducted by the same researcher, which reported rates of 24%, suffer from additional flaws:
The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The study was not a random sample, and was isolated to high ranking officers at a police conference. This study also occurred nearly 30 years ago. More current research, including a larger empirical study with thousands of responses from 2009 notes, 'Over 87 percent of officers reported never having engaged in physical domestic violence in their lifetime.' Blumenstein, Lindsey, Domestic violence within law enforcement families: The link between traditional police subculture and domestic violence among police (2009). Graduate Theses and Dissertations. http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/etd/1862
Yet another study "indicated that 10 percent of respondents (148 candidates) admitted to having ever slapped, punched, or otherwise injured a spouse or romantic partner, with 7.2 percent (110 candidates) stating that this had happened once, and 2.1 percent (33 candidates) indicating that this had happened two or three times. Repeated abuse (four or more occurrences) was reported by only five respondents (0.3 percent)." A.H. Ryan JR, Department of Defense, Polygraph Institute “The Prevalence of Domestic Violence in Police Families.” http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/4951188/FID707/Root/New/030PG297.PDF
Another: In a 1999 study, 7% of Baltimore City police officers admitted to 'getting physical' (pushing, shoving, grabbing and/or hitting) with a partner. A 2000 study of seven law enforcement agencies in the Southeast and Midwest United States found 10% of officers reporting that they had slapped, punched, or otherwise injured their partners. L. Goodmark, 2016, BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY LAW REVIEW “Hands up at Home: Militarized Masculinity and Police Officers Who Commit Intimate Partner Abuse “. https://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2519&context=fac_pubs
P.S.: I didn’t write this, all rights go to the respective copypasta’s owner
1 carllent 2019-06-18
Might not have wrote it but thanks for the response fren very enlightening
1 joeracksloudpacks 2019-06-18
I found this, fren https://kutv.com/news/local/40-of-police-officer-families-experience-domestic-violence-study-says
1 honkhonkbangbang 2019-06-18
Disagreeing verbally with women IS violence you sexist pig.
1 ClaudiusEsperante 2019-06-18
Like we give a shit about cops?
1 satanicpriest13 2019-06-18
Frens, I don't understand how longnose pillowfort had 2 people, then the big bop happened, and 2 years later longnose pillowfort had 9 people. Something is wrong. Can anyone help?
1 Pizzzajuice 2019-06-18
Math is fun and useful! Maybe you can write a history book fren
1 lil-amoeba 2019-06-18
Are you...just learning about math?
1 SupremoX2 2019-06-18
Literal holocaust denial.
You are all so fucked up.
1 Clytemnestras_Rage 2019-06-18
No u
1 VastVein 2019-06-18
Prove it happened then?
1 honkhonkbangbang 2019-06-18
Where are all the gypsy holobunga survivors with tattoos?
1 Shibereddit 2019-06-18
Guess the frens havent seen the mass grave photos
1 GlassyDude 2019-06-18
Phew! What a terrible case of typhus. Shouldn't have bopped the supply routes.
1 pyropulse209 2019-06-18
I have seen them fren, but my counting not so good and wasn’t able to make it to six gorillion. Maybe you can help?
1 lordshowsure4 2019-06-18
How come, fren? Are you sure you really know anything about math?
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-respond-to-a-holocaust-denier-when-he-shows-math-arguing-the-impossible-match-between-the-gas-chamber-and-the-number-of-murdered-people
1 BorisHisJohnson 2019-06-18
After reading that more sure than before.
1 tiniest-wizard 2019-06-18
40% of cops self-report beating their spouses/children.
1 Titus70 2019-06-18
I didn't think a chapocel would be so quick to leap to the defense of billionaires
Commies are confusing frens
1 Bulbmin66 2019-06-18
Do you have a source for that, “fren”?
1 Bulbmin66 2019-06-18
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/bunbp1/final_paper_on_perceptions_of_police_officers_and/epec20c/
Hello, you seem to be referencing an often misquoted statistic. TL:DR; The 40% number is wrong and plain old bad science. In attempt to recreate the numbers, by the same researchers, they received a rate of 24% while including violence as shouting. Further researchers found rates of 7%, 7.8%, 10%, and 13% with stricter definitions and better research methodology.
The 40% claim is intentionally misleading and unequivocally inaccurate. Numerous studies over the years report domestic violence rates in police families as low as 7%, with the highest at 40% defining violence to include shouting or a loss of temper. The referenced study where the 40% claim originates is Neidig, P.H.., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. It states:
Survey results revealed that approximately 40% of the participating officers reported marital conflicts involving physical aggression in the previous year.
There are a number of flaws with the aforementioned study:
The study includes as 'violent incidents' a one time push, shove, shout, loss of temper, or an incidents where a spouse acted out in anger. These do not meet the legal standard for domestic violence. This same study reports that the victims reported a 10% rate of physical domestic violence from their partner. The statement doesn't indicate who the aggressor is; the officer or the spouse. The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The “domestic violence” acts are not confirmed as actually being violent. The study occurred nearly 30 years ago. This study shows minority and female officers were more likely to commit the DV, and white males were least likely. Additional reference from a Congressional hearing on the study: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951003089863c
An additional study conducted by the same researcher, which reported rates of 24%, suffer from additional flaws:
The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The study was not a random sample, and was isolated to high ranking officers at a police conference. This study also occurred nearly 30 years ago. More current research, including a larger empirical study with thousands of responses from 2009 notes, 'Over 87 percent of officers reported never having engaged in physical domestic violence in their lifetime.' Blumenstein, Lindsey, Domestic violence within law enforcement families: The link between traditional police subculture and domestic violence among police (2009). Graduate Theses and Dissertations. http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/etd/1862
Yet another study "indicated that 10 percent of respondents (148 candidates) admitted to having ever slapped, punched, or otherwise injured a spouse or romantic partner, with 7.2 percent (110 candidates) stating that this had happened once, and 2.1 percent (33 candidates) indicating that this had happened two or three times. Repeated abuse (four or more occurrences) was reported by only five respondents (0.3 percent)." A.H. Ryan JR, Department of Defense, Polygraph Institute “The Prevalence of Domestic Violence in Police Families.” http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/4951188/FID707/Root/New/030PG297.PDF
Another: In a 1999 study, 7% of Baltimore City police officers admitted to 'getting physical' (pushing, shoving, grabbing and/or hitting) with a partner. A 2000 study of seven law enforcement agencies in the Southeast and Midwest United States found 10% of officers reporting that they had slapped, punched, or otherwise injured their partners. L. Goodmark, 2016, BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY LAW REVIEW “Hands up at Home: Militarized Masculinity and Police Officers Who Commit Intimate Partner Abuse “. https://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2519&context=fac_pubs
P.S.: I didn’t write this, all rights go to the respective copypasta’s owner
1 ClaudiusEsperante 2019-06-18
Like we give a shit about cops?
1 therealgoose21 2019-06-18
No problem fren, there are some cool videos of people doing it if you want to check it out.