Good question fren! I don't feel like any of those frens accurately graps what I think is good. I think that people should be socially frenly but money wise we shouldn't be able to large about of unfrienly compound interest, known as usury! Nonfrens usually practice this and it's very unfrenly and destroys society, and makes everyone unfrenly! But I do believe that frens have the right to own property like land or a farm or a company! So I don't think I fit into any of those. I just call it the frenly way :)
I didn't deny the existence of math, but math is mathesis, learning. The way modern math is formally structured is that you stipulate certain symbolic rules, then you define how those rules lead to further symbols---the idea of some "natural axioms of arithmetic" is not believed by many mathematicians. Is there one or many is an ancient philosophical question, and the answer is not determined by math.
I am not knocking math, but we live in the world, not in a math problem.
Greeks divided mental experience, according to Heidegger into roughly three types: physis, mathesis and poesis. Physis is things as they reveal themselves to us, poesis is things as they are revealed by the art of man, and mathesis is things revealed by learning. We don't learn that water flows downhill, water reveals to us that it flows downhill. We have to learn how to measure the water, tho. And my view is that what unites water is a poetic conception of water---can you ever step into the same river twice?
I am not knocking math, it is a tool in the toolbelt.
It is, I just say the world’s math because almost everything physical involves math. It’s not all math, by no means, but there’s more than what the eye would show. Gravity has quite a bit of math to it, believe it or not. It’s really intertwined to a really absurd degree.
Also you can step in the same river twice if you step out and back in. Poesis is for things like politics, morality, and other abstract shit that pseudointellectuals like me have a hard-on for
Math is how we model it, but gravity is not math, gravity is physis, not mathesis, we have laerned to model gravity, but gravity reveals itself to us in our falling down if we are unsupported, we don't learn that in the sense we learn math, it's not that it's easy to learn that you fall down if unsupported, harder to learn integral calculus, they are not all just different species of "math" (learning), math is one species of revealing, but poesis and physis are, too.
Anyway, I would say math is abstract---it's an abstract way of modelling the concrete revelation of physis. If we use a fast camera to study the distance a ball falls through the air, by measuring the distance between the balls in successive exposures, we observing a physical revelation, and math is how we calculate the velocity, etc. from the succesives deltas.
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2 st-sheep 2019-05-30
Good question fren! I don't feel like any of those frens accurately graps what I think is good. I think that people should be socially frenly but money wise we shouldn't be able to large about of unfrienly compound interest, known as usury! Nonfrens usually practice this and it's very unfrenly and destroys society, and makes everyone unfrenly! But I do believe that frens have the right to own property like land or a farm or a company! So I don't think I fit into any of those. I just call it the frenly way :)
1 Clean_Pisser 2019-05-30
Why do (((non-frens))) want to destroy society fren?
1 st-sheep 2019-05-30
Nice try non fren
1 Clean_Pisser 2019-05-30
Well only one of us has posted on topminds.
1 st-sheep 2019-05-30
You are glowing!
2 OpenSVideoEditor 2019-05-30
summed up pretty well
1 Svalbard7 2019-05-30
The coolest Fren! I’ll let you decide who that is...
1 RadiantUpstairs 2019-05-30
Fren, I am pretty sure we live in the world, not a cartesian plane. The world is more complex than math.
2 garret_konz7 2019-05-30
Fren, what if we put it in something like Google Earth because the world is not a flat plane.
1 TrumpHammer_40K 2019-05-30
The world is math, Fren. You just don’t know how to apply it.
I mean, I don’t blame you, it’s hard to find places for things like imaginary numbers or parametric graphs.
2 RadiantUpstairs 2019-05-30
I didn't deny the existence of math, but math is mathesis, learning. The way modern math is formally structured is that you stipulate certain symbolic rules, then you define how those rules lead to further symbols---the idea of some "natural axioms of arithmetic" is not believed by many mathematicians. Is there one or many is an ancient philosophical question, and the answer is not determined by math.
I am not knocking math, but we live in the world, not in a math problem.
Greeks divided mental experience, according to Heidegger into roughly three types: physis, mathesis and poesis. Physis is things as they reveal themselves to us, poesis is things as they are revealed by the art of man, and mathesis is things revealed by learning. We don't learn that water flows downhill, water reveals to us that it flows downhill. We have to learn how to measure the water, tho. And my view is that what unites water is a poetic conception of water---can you ever step into the same river twice?
I am not knocking math, it is a tool in the toolbelt.
1 TrumpHammer_40K 2019-05-30
It is, I just say the world’s math because almost everything physical involves math. It’s not all math, by no means, but there’s more than what the eye would show. Gravity has quite a bit of math to it, believe it or not. It’s really intertwined to a really absurd degree.
Also you can step in the same river twice if you step out and back in. Poesis is for things like politics, morality, and other abstract shit that pseudointellectuals like me have a hard-on for2 RadiantUpstairs 2019-05-30
Math is how we model it, but gravity is not math, gravity is physis, not mathesis, we have laerned to model gravity, but gravity reveals itself to us in our falling down if we are unsupported, we don't learn that in the sense we learn math, it's not that it's easy to learn that you fall down if unsupported, harder to learn integral calculus, they are not all just different species of "math" (learning), math is one species of revealing, but poesis and physis are, too.
Anyway, I would say math is abstract---it's an abstract way of modelling the concrete revelation of physis. If we use a fast camera to study the distance a ball falls through the air, by measuring the distance between the balls in successive exposures, we observing a physical revelation, and math is how we calculate the velocity, etc. from the succesives deltas.
1 MarkimusMeridius 2019-05-30
This reminds me of a quote by one of our top frens from last century Frenius Frenola:
1 WakaTXranger 2019-05-30
These are sum big words fren but the 2 on the left look very scary
1 Aztecskingz 2019-05-30
I like the top right one, it has a very cool suit
1 SpaceDog777 2019-05-30
Bottom left not scary fren, he just want to eat tendies and listen to music.
1 Aztecskingz 2019-05-30
Sorry fren he looks like he’s lazy, we work for out tendies
1 SpaceDog777 2019-05-30
Is OK fren, he work in dispensary to earn his tendies.
1 Beerman987654321 2019-05-30
I wan be everybody's best fren
1 TrumpHammer_40K 2019-05-30
Topleft: Fren who believes in sharing and caring
or you’ll be put to sleepTopright: Fren who believes in heart, one’s past, and baking
and are the reason why the TopMinds want our assesBottomleft: Very Frenly Fren who takes it slow and steady
and can’t notice Shrek singing All Star in fucking earrapeBottomright: Fren who lets it be and works for his goals
and is probably laughing at the rest of the motherfucking clown world1 riotingtom 2019-05-30
Seems like the bottom right could afford to buy a cool hat like all the other frens.
1 Arquinas 2019-05-30
I am ganjafren!
1 Entertained_Woman 2019-05-30
Smonk wade!
1 david-aware 2019-05-30
As far away from top left as I can fren.
1 Epichawks 2019-05-30
Bottom right fren! I want all frens to be free to do what makes them happy!
1 ToniMarino 2019-05-30
Top left fren
1 anatolianleopard 2019-05-30
I feel like right side frens but I always get left side autho fren in test results :(
1 J0moko 2019-05-30
Bottom right fren.
1 Kim_Honk_Il 2019-05-30
Me on the far right.
1 Honkler_The_Clown 2019-05-30
your windmills of frenship look wrong fren