Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is an original memer who studies rare pepes, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls battletoads rare pepes. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "rare pepe family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Feelsbadman.jpg, which includes things from Smug Pepe to Angry Pepe to Well Meme'd.

So your reasoning for calling a battletoad a rare pepe is because random people "call the green ones rare pepes?" Let's get counterfeit pepes and stolen pepes in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a memer or an fundie? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A battletoad is a battletoad and a member of the dank meme family. But that's not what you said. You said a battletoad is a rare pepe, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the dank meme family rare pepes, which means you'd call mr skeltal, doge, and other dank memes rare pepes, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

Source (as far as I know): https://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk/comments/3i2vb4/heres_the_thing_you_said_a_battletoad_is_a_rare/